<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" ><channel><title>Darwin&#039;s Finance &#187; IRA</title> <atom:link href="http://www.darwinsfinance.com/category/ira/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.darwinsfinance.com</link> <description>Financial Evolution: Education, Adaptation, Achievement</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:25:52 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>How to Get Your Market Losses Back Now! (Read on)</title><link>http://www.darwinsfinance.com/2009-market-crash/#utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=2009-market-crash</link> <comments>http://www.darwinsfinance.com/2009-market-crash/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:42:35 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Darwin</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[IRA]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Stock Market Commentary]]></category> <category><![CDATA[2009 market crash]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.darwinsfinance.com/?p=1108</guid> <description><![CDATA[Now, that&#8217;s a disingenuous title for an article.  But I see it everywhere following the 2008-2009 stock market crash &#8211; from prominent money mags at the bookstore to web investing outlets and blogger posts.  And it sure is enticing to click through and read on.  There&#8217;s a simple reason you can&#8217;t and won&#8217;t easily &#8220;get [...]Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.darwinsfinance.com/currency-etf-weak-dollar/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Best Currency ETF Plays to Exploit Weak Dollar Trend'>Best Currency ETF Plays to Exploit Weak Dollar Trend</a></li><li><a href='http://www.darwinsfinance.com/2009-stock-market-returns/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: 2009 Stock Market Returns &#8211; Emerging Markets in Triple Digits'>2009 Stock Market Returns &#8211; Emerging Markets in Triple Digits</a></li><li><a href='http://www.darwinsfinance.com/weekend-reading-market-won/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Weekend Reading &#8211; Market Just Won&#8217;t Stop Edition'>Weekend Reading &#8211; Market Just Won&#8217;t Stop Edition</a></li></ol>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Now, that&#8217;s a disingenuous title for an article.  But I see it everywhere following the 2008-2009 stock market crash &#8211; from prominent money mags at the bookstore to web investing outlets and blogger posts.  And it sure is enticing to click through and read on.  There&#8217;s a simple reason you can&#8217;t and won&#8217;t easily &#8220;get it back&#8221;.  <span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Investing returns are commensurate with risk!</strong></span> Over long periods of time, stock investors are rewarded with higher returns than bondholders, which reap higher returns than FDIC-protected savings accounts and so on.  This is both logical and is also demonstrated historically (excluding when you cherry pick your timeframes like the <a href="http://www.darwinsfinance.com/lazy-portfolio-2009/" target="_blank">lazy portfolio</a> articles propagating the web). However, it is naive to think that by simply piling on more risk you&#8217;re guaranteed higher returns any time soon &#8211; especially after the US equities market has just rallied 50% in 6 months.</p><blockquote><p><em>If it were that easy to achieve high returns with low risk, don&#8217;t you think everyone would be doing it?  (Efficient Market Theory basics).</em></p></blockquote><p><strong>Let&#8217;s take a look at what it would take to &#8220;get it back&#8221; from the 2008-2009 market crash:</strong></p><p>Consider an investor who was 100% US stocks at the peak and now they&#8217;re looking at a steaming pile of dung in their 401K account.  They want to &#8220;get it back&#8221;.  Looking at where SPY, the S&amp;P500 ETF (see this list of all developed and <a href="http://www.darwinsfinance.com/2009-stock-market-returns/" target="_blank">emerging market ETFs</a>) was at the peak in 2007 at around 160 and where it closed today at around 103, in order to get it back, you&#8217;d need to return to 160 PLUS make up for inflation adjusted time loss (i.e. over a two year period, you shouldn&#8217;t consider getting back to even the old value, but value plus inflation).  Let&#8217;s be kind and say inflation averaged 2.5% per year.  This roughly matches the current dividend yield of the S&amp;P500, so they roughly offset each otherm (I knew someone would comment that those dividends are going to help bridge the divide &#8211; but at these yields, it would be generous to say they even match inflation; we&#8217;ll call it even).</p><p>Let&#8217;s say you&#8217;re giving yourself a year to &#8220;get it back&#8221; quickly which the title implies.  That would mean SPY would need to be at 160 in a year which implies a return of another 55% on equities following one of the most spectacular rallies in stocks of the century.  Fat chance.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m virtually 100% equities in my long time horizon retirement portfolios.  I do hope stocks continue their ascent. But I&#8217;m pragmatic enough to understand that with these higher expected returns comes increased volatility and no guarantees of steady positive returns.</p><p>Some of these articles purport to &#8220;spice up&#8221; your portfolio with even higher alpha instruments like Tech ETFs and emerging markets &#8211; and the really dangerous ones entice you to consider double and <a href="http://www.darwinsfinance.com/riskiest-etfs-earth-3x-returns/" target="_blank">triple ETFs</a>.  Long term, an equity-heavy portfolio including international stocks is great (not the leveraged stuff over time!).</p><blockquote><p><em>But what about the 58-year old reading that article? </em></p></blockquote><p><em><br /> </em></p><p><strong>They just lost $500,000 in their 401K and have to consider either: </strong></p><p>a) not retiring next year as they&#8217;d planned for years</p><p>b) not funding their kids&#8217; college tuition which they were expecting</p><p>or</p><p>c) &#8220;Getting it back&#8221;.</p><blockquote><p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><em>Would it be prudent for someone with a 1 year time horizon to be heeding the call to MORE risk now in an attempt to &#8220;get it back&#8221;?  Double down? </em></span></p></blockquote><p>To avoid any confusion, I <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">am</span></strong> a proponent of stock investing.  I own equities &#8211; plenty of them.  My time horizon is multiple decades, not the next couple years.  For my short-horizon traditional trading account, I employ a different approach with hedges, options, income instruments and more (see my recent <a href="http://everydayfinance.blogspot.com/2009/09/trading-update-lllloonngg-overdue.html" target="_blank">portfolio trading update</a>).  However, I do caution against making any assumptions on where equities are going to be in the next year &#8211; especially if I&#8217;m going to need to withdraw that money for living expenses.</p><blockquote><p><em><strong>What are your thoughts?  Is it responsible journalism to entice readers to &#8220;get it back quick&#8221;?</strong></em></p></blockquote><p>&copy;2010 <a href="http://www.darwinsfinance.com">Darwin&#039;s Finance</a>. All Rights Reserved.</p>.<p><a class="a2a_dd addtoany_share_save" href="http://www.addtoany.com/share_save?linkurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.darwinsfinance.com%2F2009-market-crash%2F&amp;linkname=How%20to%20Get%20Your%20Market%20Losses%20Back%20Now%21%20%28Read%20on%29"><img src="http://www.darwinsfinance.com/wp-content/plugins/add-to-any/share_save_256_24.png" width="256" height="24" alt="Share/Bookmark"/></a></p><p>Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.darwinsfinance.com/currency-etf-weak-dollar/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Best Currency ETF Plays to Exploit Weak Dollar Trend'>Best Currency ETF Plays to Exploit Weak Dollar Trend</a></li><li><a href='http://www.darwinsfinance.com/2009-stock-market-returns/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: 2009 Stock Market Returns &#8211; Emerging Markets in Triple Digits'>2009 Stock Market Returns &#8211; Emerging Markets in Triple Digits</a></li><li><a href='http://www.darwinsfinance.com/weekend-reading-market-won/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Weekend Reading &#8211; Market Just Won&#8217;t Stop Edition'>Weekend Reading &#8211; Market Just Won&#8217;t Stop Edition</a></li></ol></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.darwinsfinance.com/2009-market-crash/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>3</slash:comments> </item> </channel> </rss>
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